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Latest on John Gear

Not to be outdone, John had a very succesful operation and decided that he was fit enough to turn up and shoot on Sunday!!  Now apart from those whom I know about,  what is the excuse for so many who didn't
hmm?  hmm?

Meanwhile, Bob Haynes has called it a day for Fullbore & GR shooting and has put his guns up for sale
so please see further details in the 'Blog' section under 'For Sale'

Saturday 10th May

We are back on Melville and it has been registered as a guest day as some members expressed a wish to bring a guest.  If anyone does wish to bring a guest and has not already notified me, please let me know (I don't need details until the day but just want to know the number of guests we are likely to have.)  All that will be required is that your guest sign a section 21 declaration and you will be liable for your guest during the day, i.e. you must supervise him/her.

I returned from a wonderful trip to Northern Ireland a couple of weeks ago where myself and a dozen others from OSM were treated to a wonderful weekend of Practical Pistol Shooting, in preparation for taking the 'Black Badge' exam. (International Practical Shooting Confederation).  We were able to use things that we have not been able to use for many years! (If you catch my drift) and our Northern Ireland hosts were thoroughly hospitable and we all had a 'whale' of a time.  I fell straight back into it, oh God, the withdrawal symptoms afterwards.  The exam takes place in October and there may possibly be room for some LAGSC members to join in but OSM will take priority.

If you are interested, let me know and I'll put you forward at any opportunity.

We were also treated to a viewing at a War Museum in Ballyclare which has been put together by a man who has dedicated his life to preserving the War Heritage of Ireland and this was a massive eyeopener for all who attended.  I certainly did not know the extent that Ireland played, particularly during WW1.  For instance,  the first shot fired in the First World War was from an Irish soldier, and the last soldier to be killed..... was from Ireland!  The museum has been the creation of David McCallion and a dedicated group of volunteers and the museum has some very unique exhibits, not least the original order bringing the end of hostilities to the First World War instructing troops to stand down and not to fraternise with the enemy.

We were so taken by the efforts of David and his volunteers that we are planning to hold a shoot to raise money for him as he has ploughed all his money into the Museum and it runs on a knife edge so it simply mustn't be allowed to be broken up or removed from its rightful heritage home in Northern Ireland.

If you get the chance to visit Northern Ireland, then put this as a must to visit (even volunteer to assist with restoration work if you fancy something different to do!)

In fact, here is the link and I am sure you will be impressed by what has been acheived:

www.waryearsremembered.co.uk

Now I am extremely pleased to tell you that Harry Hood is now so much better than he has been for years, having undergone some really serious surgery.  I spoke to him during the week and he is feeling really good and hopes to join us this Saturday.

As mentioned previously, I have put forward all the details for permission for us to use reactive targets for Air Rifle/Pistol on Melville and am awaiting the outcome but I doubt I'll have it by this weekend as some of the staff who deal with this are on holiday.

The older news:


Mr. Jennings threatens to be there and informs me that he could be swanning off to South Africa again!!

I don't know, where did I go wrong with this early retirement lark?

Never mind, I'm off to Ireland in a couple of weeks to have some fun with the stuff we ain't allowed to have over here!

Now, this will get you.....  I went up to Bisley during the week to run some ideas by the range executives re reactive targets for air rifle and pistol and the conversation was certainly interesting.  When I asked the question, the answer given was: 'Everything is treated as prohibited on any range unless it is specifically mentioned as allowed in the Bisley Bible'.   We looked at the Bisley Bible and guess what?  We find that there is no mention at all of Air weapon use on Melville!!!  Effectively therefore everyone has been falling foul of the regulations over the last god knows how many years.  Well I am sure there won't be any problems with us using them sensibly at proper distance and paper targets in the interim but meanwhile I have to design a platform and put details in an email to the legal department of the NRA to obtain permission to use reactive targets.

I have the targets, the platform and telescopic heavy steel supports but I haven't had time this week to put it all together to photograph for the legal dept, so it can't be used this Saturday otherwise we could have had a good and very challenging 'Man v Man' Air Comp. (Of course, it still has to be approved but I am extremely optimistic that it will be permitted in due course).

It is pertinent to note though the importance of avoiding hitting the ballistic coverings on the range when using air weapons because odd though it may seem, low velocity hits do more damage as they 'chip' the surface away or lodge at the surface which creates greater damage when they are struck by a higher velocity round.

Don't forget to use the blog.  You must have things to sell, interesting books to pass around etc.


You may (or may not of course!) have noticed that we now have a secure site - you will now see the padlock and 'https' prefix when you log on which means that anything you send to the site is encrypted so that your log in details can't be hijacked. The only page that will be accessible to the public is our 'About Us' page.

I have done this as there is a demand from agencies such as Google and government to make it as difficult as possible for fraudsters to hijack websites and respondent traffic ('Contact us forms and suchlike).

You will find as time goes on that you will get an 'Insecure Site' warning from places that you might visit on the net and anything that is searched for via Google will automatically flag this warning.  But now you shouldn't get that from our site.

Meanwhile....

Saturday 11th March Melville,  well what can I say..  a much better day than I had anticipated in spite of the fact that only half a dozen members turned up!  Mind you that couldn't be helped in most circumstances as some of our members are all going through one difficulty or another at the moment and others (I won't mention Stephen Jennings) are swanning around in South Africa.  The lengths and places people will go to just to get a tan and a packet of Biltong!   Of course,  now that he has RETIRED he has the time to do so

The weather was so good that we moved out to 25yards from the start and had a really good days shooting (and so did I!!!!!).

Alan managed to rattle off a few comps to keep us on our toes and coincidentally Tom Dance (our newest member, but old LAGSC member of years past) was shooting with his primary club on the bay adjacent to ours and so we has a collective meeting of ......er!... reprobates!

Taff managed to knock up some first class grub in spite of some great difficulties in the kitchen because of a new installation which had not been completed.

It really is vital now that you let me know by 10.00 on the day of a shoot if you want Taff's grub.

Trials of Electronic Targets have finished and tenders have gone out so we await to see the results and if we are able to get 300 & 500 or whatever on Electronic later in the year, I shall let you know.

That's it for now - just old news left!



HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!

Yep! Saturday 14th sees our first shoot of 2017 so you will be able to come along and lose some of those extra pounds that you gained at Christmas......... shivering is a good way to shed weight!!

Yes wrap up warm and if you are inclined bring a shotgun if you have one as I intend to have a blat during lunch if possible.

I am working on new membership cards so if you do not have a current photo in the register would you please ensure that you get one to me.

The OSM will be running courses such as Target/Practical Shotgun,Reloading and Vermin Control during the year and if you are interested please let me know so that I can put your names forward when the courses become available.  (If you have 'FeedReady' on your mobile, I shall endeavour to update you via this also)

Also bear in mind that you can join in on OSM shoots but you must ring Tricia at the OSM beforehand to make sure the booking is viable as she won't confirm with the NRA unless sufficient numbers are likely to attend.  (Keep in mind that we are low on Rifle Shoots this year so it could be useful for you to ensure you get the required number of shoots in).  I will post dates for the OSM shortly.

.22 Ammunition has risen in cost and is now £5 per 50 rounds and sources tell me the cost will be greater as the year progresses.  Hopefully I have sufficient new stock to keep us going for a while.

That's it for now.

See you Saturday.

Regards to all,


Andy


Don't forget,  Saturday 26th November Melville.  Our last full day shoot of the year leading up to the Christmas Shoot.

Saturday will sadly also be the last time we shall have the pleasure of sitting down to a Taff lunch in the Army Clubhouse as they have dispensed with Taff's services in preference to using their own Army Catering Staff.

We shall still of course have our Christmas Lunch in the Army clubhouse this year but as from January 2017, Taff will hold lunches in the 'Bunhill Clubhouse' which is just before the Artists Rifle Clubhouse (turn right at the London & Middlesex and it's about three buildings along on the left.

Christmas Lunch for 2017 will be held in 'Canada House' and I have already booked Taff for this.

This leads me to suggest that we get together and give some thought as to a presentation to Taff as he has always looked after our Club over many years and I know that he was quite upset at being given very short notice to quit the Army Clubhouse.   Although he is not leaving us as such, it would be nice to give him something as a token of appreciation.   Have a chat on Saturday if you are coming or drop me an email if you cannot attend.

Keep an eye on the website as it will shortly change to our 'Christmas' profile and will have details of the Christmas shoot and menu etc etc.


Meanwhile, if you have not read this section yet:
Some of you may be having palpitations because of the unexpected confirmation of all of our dates bar one!

It is nice to see that at long last the NRA is getting to grips with the situation and although it may affect whether we get 300/500 or whatever because of marker problems and the impending installation of more electronic targets, I was hoping to get 28th May for long distance but the Phoenix meeting is on and all electronic targets will be set to 200yds over the weekend.

I don't want to muck around trying to book markers for long distance only to find that we have to cancel because none are available.  We should be grateful that virtually all we have asked for has been granted in terms of dates.  Granted, there has had to be some jiggery pokery to fit in competition scenarios such as McQueens and the fact that we could only get a morning is not ideal but at least we have got it and we'll make the best we can of it.  If the current situation means we can't get long range shooting in for a year or two then so be it.

You will notice on the Calendar that we have to move positions on occasions at the same distance and the logistics of trying to satisfy all the clubs means it can't be avoided.

So for the first time in eight years!, I can start working on the Calendar Cards that I used to print off.

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Urgent Attention Required If You Are Interested In Doing A Vermin Course - Limited Spaces
Contact Tricia direct at the Old Sergeants Mess Clubhouse, Bisley: 01483 799998


Old Sergeants Mess will be running a Vermin course on Sunday 11th December.

This will be a full day course starting at 9am - registration at the OSM Clubhouse is from 8.30am. The cost of the day, which runs to mid-evening, is £100 + rifle hire + ammo - this includes a sandwich lunch.

The course comprises

AM - Theory
PM - Use of the vehicle
After dark - Practical at the farm using targets (if you are lucky enough to bag a rabbit that is a bonus)

You will receive a certificate on completion of this course which may assist an application for a Semi Open Firearms Licence for vermin control.

There are 3 places available and these will be allocated on a first come first served basis.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Tricia


Bisley - 2017

I attended a meeting of Club Secretaries at Bisley Tuesday before last to listen to plans for the future of Bisley and the changes that are being and are going to be made to try and drag it into the 21st Century and to try and ensure that Clubs stand a reasonable chance of getting bookings in the future in a much more reliable way than is happening at present.

There is considerable work going on to modernise the NRA Admin Block and Armoury and everything is going to be moved into the Pavillion Block  probably around December with a purpose built Armoury downstairs and a much larger Reception Area.  There are plans to include a Cafeteria and Sales Area, although it is not decided just yet as to the final nature of sales.

All future Club Bookings can only be done in advance online and the reception staff will not enter into any discussion concerning bookings or targets.  The  Range Admin Office will be remote from the Reception Area.

More Electronic Targets are going to be installed and have undergone thorough testing and we are waiting to learn what the Club rates will be for such targets.  (Currently £10 per person individually during weekdays and £15 on Saturday and Sundays.  The likelihood at the moment is that they will only be available at 300Yds but this is being investigated.

There are plans to extend Cheylesmore with possibly two extra firing points on the right hand side which will be of the electric retreivable type like those on A Bay in Melville.

The NRA has become the victim of its own success, since membership applications have grown considerably over the last year or so and in real terms 'Membership has outgrown the camp facilities'.

This may sometimes seem hard to believe, especially when as in so many times in the past, we have been told that there is no booking space and yet when we turn up we find that the ranges are half empty.
The main reason for this has been the selfishness of some clubs who 'block book' a large number of ranges just to make sure that they get their dates in but either cancel at the very last minute to avoid being charged; or do not bother to turn up!

Bearing in mind that only a fortnights' notice of cancellation is required,  it makes it impossible to reallocate those bookings easily as most clubs have had to book a year in advance and it is impracticle to try and run a club on a monthly basis in the hope that a cancellation can be booked.

The solution:  Admin have been working very hard behind the scenes to go back through a number of years to log: a) The number of clubs that use Bisley
                    b) The Ranges and distances that have been requested by those clubs
                    c)  The number of targets requested and confirmed against those actually used
                    d)  The historic incidence of any of the clubs major competitions

A great deal of valuable information was gleaned from this exercise and those clubs with a history of 'block booking' who subsequently have a history of cancelling will only be allowed to book the number of targets that they have actually used historically.   This should have happened years ago!

Payments for bookings will have to be made in advance so those who fail to turn up without due notice
will not leave the NRA out of pocket.

Where a club has historically booked a competition (Such as our McQueen; 300/500Yd etc) around the same time each year, then the NRA will attempt to write the date in stone so that it will automatically be allocated each year.  

As I finish these sentences I am pleased to say that some confirmations are now coming through so keep an eye on the calendar.

Next Shoot:  Sunday 30th October 200Yds S.Siberia (McQueens AM... 100Yds PM)





Welcome New Members
We welcome Four (Yes 4!) new members to our Club:

1: Fiona Noble (Probationary Member)
2. Andrez Zych (Andy) (FAC Probationary Member)
3. Nicola Taylor (Probationary)
4. Tom Dance (FAC Probationary)

Some of you may have met them already but Fiona and Nicola are new to shooting; Andy is a member of BRPC and so has some experience and Tom.... well... Tom,  some of us know from the good old days of LAGSC at Waterloo.  The Station that is... not the battle! (Yeah! I know what was going on in your minds - miserable lot!)

Welcome to the madhouse.

As an update to the items in the latest newsletter below, it transpires that we cannot have the clay table or knock down rubber targets any longer on Melville as they have been withdrawn because of the actions of a few idiots.

Also Archery cannot take place on this range because of risk of damage or ricochet, but to enhance:

Some shooters, (not our Club I hasten to mention!) being too lazy to go forward (in good weather!) to shoot at 25metres decided they would prop targets up against the concrete plinths (where the 25 metre target bay used to be!) and so shoot their 25 metres under cover.  Thus, the safe line of fire was completely altered - the target centre point had dropped by probably two feet because they were not in proper turning target holders and substantial damage was done to the ballistic rubber covering at the 50metre point way below the top of the mantlet.

As a result, the idiots were thrown off the range but now only target backing boards of correct specification for fixing in the turning target holders are permitted and nothing else.

The Range Office were not entirely certain that we would be allowed enclosed metal knock down targets for the Duck Shoot this Saturday but have decided to let us have a go and have slipped us onto 'E' Bay (Out of the way, so to speak)  We will need to raise the boxes off the mantlet to prevent damage to the ballistic cover and risk of ricochet.  (LAGSC does have a good reputation for behaving responsibly and clearing up - you would be surprised at the behaviour of some clubs, which is why we have been given
this opportunity.)

It is incumbent upon us all to be vigilant and not do daft things because as we can see, this has a direct effect on all shooters and if you see someone doing something they shouldn't, bring it to their or our attention.

Sadly, the actions of one or two idiots have ruined it for the rest of us yet again.

I am glad to say that cameras are going to be installed on the range in the near future as they already are on Cheylesmore.  This will hopefully stop the idiots.

In view of what has happened, I will try to get more shoots on Cheylesmore in future as it does not have the ballistic tiling across all bays so we may be able to do something like clays on that range but I am having further discussion on this.

Anyway back to the last newsletter:
Saturday 30th was a good day and we had the opportunity of seeing Bisley at it's busiest with hardly a blade of grass to be seen... as it was covered in tents and custom cars!!

Nevertheless, it was very interesting and we also had some challenging shooting at 50 Metres especially with air pistols and rifles.

Alan retired at the end of the day with a good bundle of targets to score so that was his Sunday taken care of.  (I am sure that Alan will be eternally grateful to us for allowing him the pleasure of counting our holes when he could be doing something far more adventurous on a Sunday...... like reading this newsletter!!)

Of course we have another shoot next Saturday but this could not be avoided becuse we had to take whatever we could get hold of otherwise there was a good risk that some of you would not be able to get enough shoots in to qualify for the minimum number per 12 month period.

I have managed to get an afternoon booking for 200yds on the 30th October with a single target so we can at least get another comp done.  (We have McQueens in the morning and originally were told that we could not have any space in the afternoon.)  I had originally planned to have a shotgun comp in the afternoon instead but now I have this booking, I shall arrange another time for shotgun.

This system of booking is really cheesing some of us club secs' right off.  Now we have been  told that we should start booking now for 2017 (whereas it was always September) ....but that we won't get confirmation until late November.  I suppose that next year, we shall have to start booking a year in advance!!  If this is progress with all the revamping of Staff and computerisation of bookings etc, then God help us!

Anyway, back to next Saturday.. Alan will organise a Duck Shoot so make sure you bring some orange sauce... er sorry, I mean an air rifle and pistol if you have it.  I will try to get the clay table (again!).  I had asked for it to be out last Saturday but as you probably guessed.. it didn't happen.

Oh well... older news:


There was yet another of those expensive mornings thoroughly enjoyed by myself, Nick and John Gear on the Target Shotgun Range (Winans) recently with some 200 rounds apiece being deposited into the sand!

The next Target Shotgun shoot is on Sunday 21st August and this coincides with an introductory course which will consist of a morning classroom session (Whilst some of us are busy banging away!) which covers safety and movement etc., and is then followed by an afternoon practical session to try out what you have studied in the classroom. You must undertake this course if you want to take part in such shoots.  Don't worry if you can't get on this one as there are several taking place during the year.

We have two LAGSC members booked for this course (Bob Haynes and Andy Zych) so far but if you want to be included you must contact me immediately as spaces are limited and get taken quickly.

If you want to get a little more black powder shooting done, then why not have a go in the upcoming
Repeating Pistol Competition in July.  Navigate to the 'Competitions' button to find out more or click
here: MLAGB Surrey Branch Repeating Pistol Comp



There is a more extensive explanation of the Competition  Rules which I shall post shortly.

Meanwhile Mike has been swanning around in the States and has kindly* (*Read as 'gloatingly!)
sent a photo or two of his adventures which I have posted in the photo's section,  having, naturally of course,  made a slight adjustment for Mike's benefit!

To get to Photos:  Hover your mouse on 'Current News' then follow the button links to 'Archived News'
then 'Photos' and click on that.

Alternatively, click here:   Photos









Next Shoot: Sunday 13th March, Short Siberia.
Please note that you may experience delays getting to the Camp. Alan has informed me that there is a 'Half Marathon Race' around the Guildford area in the morning. You are advised to check online regarding the route so that you can avoid it.


Our First Shoot Of The Year:

Yes, that was interesting wasn't it. Although it was not as problematical as I had feared as everyone opted to shoot from 50metres which made a nice challenge for the airgunners. At least we know what we need to do in the future and Bisley informs me that they are building gun racks for the 25m points.

Speaking of airgunners, during the shoot a kind gentleman wandered onto our range and offered free airguns for any of our interested members and his offer was promptly snapped up. (Luckily enough, no one was killed during the rush!!)

Many thanks indeed to Robert Anderson who offered the airguns and has also expressed a wish to join the Club and when you have all finished laughing and questioning his sanity for such a request I will tell you that Robert is an FAC and SG Certificate holder and I look forward to welcoming him to our shoots in the future.

Previous Update:

Tomorrow's (Sat 20th Feb) shoot on Melville is confirmed but there are changes to the way the range is laid out:

Unless we are all firing at 50yds, the 25yd/mt firing point is now where the 25 yd/mt 'Target' bay used to be (you set up tables on the concrete plinth that used to house the turning targets). Currently there is no cover but that is being remedied in the not too distant future. If I can, I will bring a Gazebo along in case, but this will probably limit us to around five shooters at a time. It's going to be a case of seeing what we can adapt to. We can apparently take the rifle racks forward to house our equipment.

PLEASE BRING YOUR OLD SHOOTER CERTIFICATION CARDS WITH YOU so that John can replicate onto your new ones. NO ONE IS TO SHOOT UNTIL THEY HAVE A NEW CARD!

You will see that there has been a great deal of work going on at Melville especially on bay 'A' but it will be a while before it is all completed.

I look forward to seeing you all on our first shoot of the season.

Older news:

I trust you have all recovered from the indulgencies of the festive season and are anxiously awaiting to lose some weight....... from your ammo box of course!

As I mentioned at the AGM, 2016 could be a difficult year for many clubs because of the situation with Butt Zero now coming into the Range Danger Area from Melville, which means that any major comps for practical shotgun etc on Butt Zero may take priority and Melville could be cancelled so it is even more important to keep an eye on the website and if you can, ensure that you have got the 'FeedReady' App installed on your iphone or Android phone if you have one and certainly make sure that I have a current mobile number for you so that I can send a text or message possibly at very short notice!

Subsequent to the above paragraph:
Having attended a recent instructors seminar at Bisley (Sunday 18th) it also transpires that Range Booking requests are substantially up on last year because of problems that regional clubs are having trying to access military ranges and this has put unprecedented pressure on Bisley to accommodate everyone which is why the confirmation process has been so slow and dates declined. Many clubs are having to reduce bookings in order to find space and Bisley are working very hard to try and resolve the situation with Melville where rounds have been exiting the stop butt and encroaching into 'Butt Zero' on Stickledown which meant closing the range and making the difficult range booking situation even worse.

As I write this, Melville is undergoing urgent alteration to rectify this and to try to stop the necessity of having to close the range when Butt Zero is in use. It seems that 25yard/metre shoots will now be done by moving forward to the original 25yd target point which will now become firing points. This will reduce angulation* and therefore trajectory of the bullet. (*Subject of course to the shooter KEEPING his/her firearm pointing at the centre of the target throughout the shooting process unless instructed otherwise - and even then, this would only be to lower the firearm at 45% to the ground such as a starting position in a competition!)

There are plans to put shelters over the points but we don't know much more than this at the moment.

Of course, if they don't put shelters up, then shooting is not going to be much fun in bad weather or the alternative is that we only shoot 50yds. I am still not sure of the facts and are awaiting updates from Bisley as to exactly how we will be affected.

I know we like to Blame the NRA for problems but this is something they will have great difficulty sorting. They could not predict the problems that have recently come about with Landmarc and the running of Military Ranges and there is a great deal of negotiation going on with the various parties to try and resolve the issues.

Safety:
To further emphasise another message that was given to everyone who attended the AGM re Range Safety Firearms 'Clearance', it is vitally important that we all adhere to the instructions as laid out in the 'Bisley Bible' in that all shooters MUST have their firearms checked as clear and safe before withdrawing from the Firing Point. This can be done by an adjacent shooter or by drawing the attention of the RCO. This was emphasised on a previous newsletter and at the last rifle shoot but seems to have been forgotten on Melville.

PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE CHECKED CLEAR BEFORE PACKING UP AND LEAVING THE FIRING POINT! YOU CANNOT CLEAR YOURSELF AT A CLUB SHOOT! I cannot emphasis the importance of this enough.

In the case of Underlever rifles, the action must be 'actioned' at least three times and the tube magazine follower must be clearly seen before 'Clear' is given.

It is also important to ensure that no one is touching firearms (or doing anything at the Firing Point Bench) whilst anyone is forward of the firing point.


I trust you have all recovered from the indulgencies of the festive season and are anxiously awaiting to lose some weight....... from your ammo box of course!


As I mentioned at the AGM, 2016 could be a difficult year for many clubs because of the situation with Butt Zero now coming into the Range Danger Area from Melville, which means that any major comps for practical shotgun etc on Butt Zero may take priority and Melville could be cancelled so it is even more important to keep an eye on the website and if you can, ensure that you have got the 'FeedReady' App installed on your iphone or Android phone if you have one and certainly make sure that I have a current mobile number for you so that I can send a text or message possibly at very short notice!


Subsequent to the above paragraph:

Having attended a recent instructors seminar at Bisley (Sunday 18th) it also transpires that Range Booking requests are substantially up on last year because of problems that regional clubs are having trying to access military ranges and this has put unprecedented pressure on Bisley to accommodate everyone which is why the confirmation process has been so slow and dates declined.  Many clubs are having to reduce bookings in order to find space and Bisley are working very hard to try and resolve the situation with Melville where rounds have been exiting the stop butt and encroaching into 'Butt Zero' on Stickledown which meant closing the range and making the difficult range booking situation even worse.


As I write this, Melville is undergoing urgent alteration to rectify this and to try to stop the necessity of having to close the range when Butt Zero is in use.   It seems that 25yard/metre shoots will now be done by moving forward to the original 25yd target point which will now become firing points.  This will reduce angulation* and therefore trajectory of the bullet.  (*Subject of course to the shooter KEEPING his/her firearm pointing at the centre of the target throughout the shooting process unless instructed otherwise - and even then, this would only be to lower the firearm at 45% to the ground such as a starting position in a competition!)


There are plans to put shelters over the points but we don't know much more than this at the moment.


Of course, if they don't put shelters up, then shooting is not going to be much fun in bad weather or the alternative is that we only shoot 50yds.  I am still not sure of the facts and are awaiting updates from Bisley as to exactly how we will be affected.


I know we like to Blame the NRA for problems but this is something they will have great difficulty sorting.  They could not predict the problems that have recently come about with Landmarc and the running of Military Ranges and there is a great deal of negotiation going on with the various parties to try and resolve the issues.


Safety:

To further emphasise another message that was given to everyone who attended the AGM re Range Safety Firearms 'Clearance', it is vitally important that we all adhere to the instructions as laid out in the 'Bisley Bible' in that all shooters MUST have their firearms checked as clear and safe before withdrawing from the Firing Point.  This can be done by an adjacent shooter or by drawing the attention of the RCO.  This was emphasised on a previous newsletter and at the last rifle shoot but seems to have been forgotten on Melville.


PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE CHECKED CLEAR BEFORE PACKING UP AND LEAVING THE FIRING POINT!   YOU CANNOT CLEAR YOURSELF AT A CLUB SHOOT!   I cannot emphasis the importance of this enough.


In the case of Underlever rifles, the action must be 'actioned' at least three times and the tube magazine follower must be clearly seen before 'Clear' is given.


It is also important to ensure that no one is touching firearms (or doing anything at the Firing Point Bench) whilst anyone is forward of the firing point.



The FeedReady App


If you were lucky enough to get a new mobile phone for Christmas then go to:


www.//FeedReady.com

Download the App to your phone and when installed the App will ask if you want to create a link, so in the box for filling, type our web address (www.lagsc.com) and you should then have a LAGSC link at the top of the App page.  Tap on this and.... Voila!  You hopefully will have opened a page with the LAGSC logo filling the background.  Simply scroll down to see any messages.  You should thereafter get a signal whenever I update the web or notify you about dates.  (Some phones though will need to be manually updated by opening the app)

If you encounter any problems, give me a call or email.




SHOOTERS RECORD & ATTENDANCE
It is vitally important that your shooting record is kept up to date as checks are being made and there is going to be a tightening of the regulations.  My hands are tied, if you do not turn up for at least three shoots in any twelve month period, I have to notify the police.   Unless you have a very good reason for not attending,  you will probably lose your FAC.  Take note!



See you at our first shoot of 2016 - Saturday 20th February

Regards to all.
Andy.








Old News

Saturday 14th May on Melville is confirmed and that will be it until July by the looks of it as there is no
booking available in June.  The dates I had reserved have been rejected because of the Imperial Shoot.

Please be mindful though that I will need to clear the range at 4.30 this Saturday as I have to collect a large quantity of engraving and log it before  the Range Office closes.  Because of NRA staff illness, I couldn't collect it much earlier as should have been the case so I am under great pressure and really cannot hold off and Mike is away so he cannot take over from me.

Now, with the lack of a shoot for June, I am wondering if anyone would be interested in a Sporting Shotgun Shoot on Long Siberia, sometime in June if it can be arranged?  I don't know what the cost is but will find out but in the meantime could you let me know ASAP whether you would like this

Meanwhile I am working on some dates to try and get at least one 200yd shoot before the year runs out and will keep you informed.


Great!  As if there wasn't enough to do, we are now advised that 200yd bookings will only be taken for the 4th Sunday of each month.  You'll have to be patient therefore as I am going to have to do some jiggling around to see if we can get 'a date' on 'a fourth Sunday' of some month or other.

I shall post it on the Calendar when (or IF) successful.

As you may have already read:

I have been busy revamping the site a bit and working on the blog to try and make it more useful.
If you hit the 'Blog' button you will see at the bottom of the page a series of links which are self explanatory.  LAGCS has quite an extensive library which Ron is looking after at the moment
and I am sure he would like to free up some space, so when I get a further moment I will scan his list and put it on the site so that if you want to borrow one or two you can let him know.

You may have been trying to get into the site whilst I have been doing all this so apologies if you had problems.

Meanwhile, have a look and enjoy the first comments that I have put on the pages.

You should have already received an email re this:

PLEASE TAKE CAREFUL NOTE TO AMEND YOUR ADDRESS BOOK:

As I have mentioned before, unfortunately 'LAGSC' doesn't just exist as a shooting club but is also a big Football Team in Mexico.  The result being that I get bombarded with emails intended for 'lagsc.me'
and I am getting really tired of creating new filters to cope with ever changing crap that keeps coming into my inbox which are mainly adverts for football seminars.  It seems that the biggest part of the problem is that 'info' is too generic and all sorts of spam gets sent to anything 'info' regardless of country.  Unfortunately webhosting services cannot block countries as this can only be done by government initiative so it is better to discard generic addresses to try to prevent this.  (I sometimes get between 30 - 50 emails a day on some occasions - I will be very fluent in Mexican before too long!!)

With immediate effect I would ask you to change the Club email address to: 'shootingclub@lagsc.com'
You will have until 1st April at the latest.

From 1st April (No it's not an April Fools Joke!) 'info@lagsc' will be removed and any mail sent to the old address will simply be rejected.


Target/Practical Shotgun
Four of our club members attended the 'Advanced' Target/Practical Shotgun Course (using barricades etc) with the OSM last weekend (20th March) and I don't need to add anymore than I did before so read it again and if I have whetted your appetite please let me know so that I can get you on any available courses

It is my solemn duty to have to inform you that......................

Last Sunday's Practical Shotgun Shoot was an absolute 'Ripper'.  Myself, Caroline, Charles & John Gear had what can only be described as disgusting ... dare I say it... 'FUN!'

I came away, some two hundred and fort hink may have had my lips meeting around the back of my head.

A new course of 'reactive targets' has been created by the OSM Team and they were brilliant.   This is something this Club must get into and if you fancy giving it a go,  please email me so that I can put your names down for the next introductory course.  (Some of us who have done the course are going to do the
'Advanced' course shortly and there will be more of these to follow as not everyone can get on the courses in one go.)

I am also looking to do some intensive shooting along with others so that we can become RO's for this discipline and thus run our own Club Shoots when possible so that we don't end up hogging OSM space which undoubtedly will become harder to obtain as this discipline is becoming ever more popular.

The OSM have our dates for the year and some members hopefully will come along to our shoots, especially for Black Powder during the year.  Likewise, the OSM will pass on dates that may interest
our members and therefore allow you to get more shooting in during the year or to catch up where you may not be able to get to our shoots.

It is imperative that you sign their range book and let me know of any shoots that you attend so that your
shooting record can be maintained.

Again, if you want to do the PSG course, please email me so that I can keep a record and offer slots as they become available.

Next Shoot: Sunday 13th March, Short Siberia.
Please note that you may experience delays getting to the Camp.  Alan has informed me that there is a 'Half Marathon Race' around the Guildford area in the morning.  You are advised to check online regarding the route so that you can avoid it.


Our First Shoot Of The Year:

Yes, that was interesting wasn't it.  Although it was not as problematical as I had feared as everyone opted to shoot from 50metres which made a nice challenge for the airgunners.  At least we know what we need to do in the future and Bisley informs me that they are building gun racks for the 25m points.

Speaking of airgunners,   during the shoot a kind gentleman wandered onto our range and offered free airguns for any of our interested members and his offer was promptly snapped up.  (Luckily enough, no one was killed during the rush!!)

Many thanks indeed to Robert Anderson who offered the airguns and has also expressed a wish to join the Club and when you have all finished laughing and questioning his sanity for such a request I will tell you that Robert is an FAC and SG Certificate holder and I look forward to welcoming him to our shoots in the future.

Previous Update:

Tomorrow's (Sat 20th Feb) shoot on Melville is confirmed but there are changes to the way the range is laid out:

Unless we are all firing at 50yds, the 25yd/mt firing point is now where the 25 yd/mt 'Target'  bay used to be  (you set up tables on the concrete plinth that used to house the turning targets).  Currently there is no cover but that is being remedied in the not too distant future.  If I can, I will bring a Gazebo along in case, but this will probably limit us to around five shooters at a time.  It's going to be a case of seeing what we can adapt to.  We can apparently take the rifle racks forward to house our equipment.

PLEASE BRING YOUR OLD SHOOTER CERTIFICATION CARDS WITH YOU so that John can replicate onto your new ones.   NO ONE IS TO SHOOT UNTIL THEY HAVE A NEW CARD!

You will see that there has been a great deal of work going on at Melville especially on bay 'A' but it will be a while before it is all completed.

I look forward to seeing you all on our first shoot of the season.

Older news:

I trust you have all recovered from the indulgencies of the festive season and are anxiously awaiting to lose some weight....... from your ammo box of course!

As I mentioned at the AGM, 2016 could be a difficult year for many clubs because of the situation with Butt Zero now coming into the Range Danger Area from Melville, which means that any major comps for practical shotgun etc on Butt Zero may take priority and Melville could be cancelled so it is even more important to keep an eye on the website and if you can, ensure that you have got the 'FeedReady' App installed on your iphone or Android phone if you have one and certainly make sure that I have a current mobile number for you so that I can send a text or message possibly at very short notice!

Subsequent to the above paragraph:
Having attended a recent instructors seminar at Bisley (Sunday 18th) it also transpires that Range Booking requests are substantially up on last year because of problems that regional clubs are having trying to access military ranges and this has put unprecedented pressure on Bisley to accommodate everyone which is why the confirmation process has been so slow and dates declined.  Many clubs are having to reduce bookings in order to find space and Bisley are working very hard to try and resolve the situation with Melville where rounds have been exiting the stop butt and encroaching into 'Butt Zero' on Stickledown which meant closing the range and making the difficult range booking situation even worse.

As I write this, Melville is undergoing urgent alteration to rectify this and to try to stop the necessity of having to close the range when Butt Zero is in use.   It seems that 25yard/metre shoots will now be done by moving forward to the original 25yd target point which will now become firing points.  This will reduce angulation* and therefore trajectory of the bullet.  (*Subject of course to the shooter KEEPING his/her firearm pointing at the centre of the target throughout the shooting process unless instructed otherwise - and even then, this would only be to lower the firearm at 45% to the ground such as a starting position in a competition!)

There are plans to put shelters over the points but we don't know much more than this at the moment.

Of course, if they don't put shelters up, then shooting is not going to be much fun in bad weather or the alternative is that we only shoot 50yds.  I am still not sure of the facts and are awaiting updates from Bisley as to exactly how we will be affected.

I know we like to Blame the NRA for problems but this is something they will have great difficulty sorting.  They could not predict the problems that have recently come about with Landmarc and the running of Military Ranges and there is a great deal of negotiation going on with the various parties to try and resolve the issues.

Safety:
To further emphasise another message that was given to everyone who attended the AGM re Range Safety Firearms 'Clearance', it is vitally important that we all adhere to the instructions as laid out in the 'Bisley Bible' in that all shooters MUST have their firearms checked as clear and safe before withdrawing from the Firing Point.  This can be done by an adjacent shooter or by drawing the attention of the RCO.  This was emphasised on a previous newsletter and at the last rifle shoot but seems to have been forgotten on Melville.

PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE CHECKED CLEAR BEFORE PACKING UP AND LEAVING THE FIRING POINT!   YOU CANNOT CLEAR YOURSELF AT A CLUB SHOOT!   I cannot emphasis the importance of this enough.

In the case of Underlever rifles, the action must be 'actioned' at least three times and the tube magazine follower must be clearly seen before 'Clear' is given.

It is also important to ensure that no one is touching firearms (or doing anything at the Firing Point Bench) whilst anyone is forward of the firing point.


The FeedReady App

If you were lucky enough to get a new mobile phone for Christmas then go to:

www.//FeedReady.com

Download the App to your phone and when installed the App will ask if you want to create a link, so in the box for filling, type our web address (www.lagsc.com) and you should then have a LAGSC link at the top of the App page.  Tap on this and.... Voila!  You hopefully will have opened a page with the LAGSC logo filling the background.  Simply scroll down to see any messages.  You should thereafter get a signal whenever I update the web or notify you about dates.  (Some phones though will need to be manually updated by opening the app)

If you encounter any problems, give me a call or email.




SHOOTERS RECORD & ATTENDANCE
It is vitally important that your shooting record is kept up to date as checks are being made and there is going to be a tightening of the regulations.  My hands are tied, if you do not turn up for at least three shoots in any twelve month period, I have to notify the police.   Unless you have a very good reason for not attending,  you will probably lose your FAC.  Take note!



See you at our next shoot - Sunday 13th March

Regards to all.
Andy.


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